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Written by Wilfred Ling   
Saturday, 24 April 2010

I received the following email from a disillusion insurance agent. What the person described below is very real but it is an unspoken “pain” that all insurance agents go through.

"I am currently a new insurance agent with one of the big companies in Singapore. I am probably getting a bit disillusioned now, what with the huge focus on sales rather than financial planning. Most of our sales come from tricking students or NSFs into signing up for $30 whole life plans with a cash value under the guise of a "savings plan". This is why you can always spot an army of insurance agents at XXX or XXX bus interchange on XXX nights. We are told to avoid mentioning things like bonuses not being guaranteed, and that our presentation should be focused on making clients believe that we are offering something they have to buy. Our "fact finding" is limited to finding out whether they are primarily interested in protections, savings or investment, followed by their budget. I am told this is because we are not paid to do financial planning, so we could spend an hour or more doing fact find for a client who will refuse to buy anything, in other words, we would end up providing a professional service for free. I feel this is largely the fault of the commission structure. I feel very unethical about this, but at the same time, i do need money to make ends meet. Unfortunately with the commission structure i am being encouraged to simply sell the highest commission products possible. While a term plan might be more appropriate in some cases, i cannot sell it as i will not receive sufficient commission to cover the cost of prospecting for the client and meeting the client, and worse a term plan is not considered a "life case" so i will be screamed at by my boss (i have seen some bosses throw heavy objects at their agents and i feel concerned for my safety). I was not even given product training on anything except the highest commission products. My daily activities leave me even more confused with what i am doing. Most of my time is spent doing public surveys and attempting to trick people into meeting with me under the guise of following up on the survey. So far i have spent about 3 weeks doing this with no real results, due to the incredible amount of people who do not EVER pick up their phones, give fake numbers, or constantly postponing appointments. And i am simply being told to keep doing it and that i will get lucky one day and strike the jackpot. This seems like a gigantic waste of time. Isnt there a better way to find people interested in financial planning, insurance or investment? Most people seem to have absolutely no desire whatsoever to do any planning, i have 25 year old working adults telling me that they just leave it to their parents, who are nearing retirement age already, or they just flat out say that planning is not necessary and that the government takes care of things already with CPF. I definitely want to be in the financial planning business to help people, but i seriously doubt i am walking the right road now. Any advice? I have considered being a IFA as it seems more ethical and professional, but i do not know how IFAs work, and i am seriously concerned about the idea of "jumping over" only to find out that a manager lied to me again."

I had the permission of the author of the email to post this email.

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AK71   |220.255.7.185 |2010-04-25 07:12:53
This is extremely sad. As consumers, we have to learn to take care of our own interests. Unfortunately, there are many who don't know how.

There are too many unscrupulous sales people in the world.
Collin   |202.65.245.7 |2010-04-25 10:30:51
Hi Wilfred

This is a very good writing from the agent. Someone should do something to this kind of structure.

Does the agent mind if I post this on my blog too?
Chan   |220.255.7.243 |2010-04-25 11:54:18

customers must take care of themselves
agents must take care of themselves
financial freedom is not as easy as it seems
Due deligence
Lee  - It's about finding the right mentor   |220.255.7.195 |2010-06-08 02:02:10
Hi Wilfred,

It's really gd for you to express your thoughts. Just like clients who liked to be served by ethical and professional financial planners instead of product pushers, individuals also have the option to look for a good mentor. If you feel lousy having to do things against your wishes, especially when its obviously not adding value to you nor your clients, why not have an open mind and talk to other managers? The choice is always yours, nobody has any right to force you to join his/ her organisation against your will. But at the same time, having the prior experience should allow you to be able to discern the good from the bad. isn't it so?
Wilfred   |SAdministrator |2010-06-08 02:04:59
Lee, you are mistaken. The above quote was from a life insurance agent. Not me.
Lee   |220.255.7.199 |2010-06-08 02:13:01
Yes, oversight of mine, apologies - but nice to share this, and my comments for the poor chap.
butterfly  - FSC suffer in silent   |220.255.7.193 |2010-07-08 12:12:12
Hi,It seems no body understand how finacial services consultants(SFC) are suffering .
People do not see (FSC) as an professional , they tend to take advantage for their free lunch , tea or dinner .
They expect every meals pay by FSC . They expect dairy, free gifts and so on .
If the FSC can close a big deal is ok . what happen if only few hundred $ .
The cost of petrol , traveling time,
preparation , submit the documents , handling queries from underwriter , follow up payment and so on .
Hard earn $ .
Please spare a thought for them .
butterfly   |220.255.7.222 |2010-07-08 14:19:42
I would like to share you my experience as an Insurance agent .
I have been working for insurance agent almost 20 years .
A Client suffered from cancer after 15 years of her only policy .
Her daughter called up asked me how to go about the claim and I explained the policy details and forwarded the claim forms to her later submited the claim for her mum .
Not long I got the claim cheque and called the client's daughter to pass the cheque to her on my way near her house . Happen that she wasn't free and made the following day which was Sunday 10am . I reassure her to call me before she came as I might have to go market.
On Sunday , I left my mobile phone at home and went to market downstair. The phone rang and was 10mins past 10am when I got home. I picked up the phone and She sounded very unhappy that she has been calling me many time and later but agreed to come 15mins later to collect the cheque from me .
She called again questioned me why I didn't make a return call? I was puzzd why was there a returned call required since called ended said "OK" . She said the line was
bad and cut off automatically .
(If she think there was a need , then what's wrong to call me back ? )
She started scream and yelling , I also follow , she wanted me hand the cheque to her instead. if not , she wanted to complain to my company about my bad services . She kept on scream and yelling on the phone and I left the phone unattended .
I wasn't free to meet her on Sunday in the first place .
I handed over the cheque to her mum's house at the end before noon.
Not because i afraid about her complain about me . It was because , I just want to get this thing over and I could have a better day .

Here, I would like to say .
The policy with me for 15 years , what happen if I have left the company, she has to get someone to do or
I can ask her to go to customer service .
My time spent with her to explain to her about the claim , the policy details , submit claims ,follow up the claim collect cheque , phone conversation , emailing and so on .
Moreover, it was a small amount of the policy premium .
Who pay us this services ?
Sunday, can I choose not to work ?
I believe most of us think services provided was only to do the best we could .
Yet Most of us suffer in silent
Wilfred   |SAdministrator |2010-07-18 03:52:31
butterfly,

The "suffering" is due to the flawed renumeration method in which agents are compensated for bringing in the sales but not for providing good after sales service.
Friend  - Flawed renumeration   |220.255.7.207 |2010-10-03 03:43:14
too bad, insurance and investments were not sold like candies and undies, one being loved and the other is deemed necessary. even if any insurers or financial institutions were to employ salaried advisers, they would want to see figures to justify the salarybeing paid. commission based scheme is by far the best way to keep everyone on their toes together with the relevant authorities to ensure things are done ethically. while fee-based is a practical approach for higher networth whom has the ability to keepup with the review fees etc, there is a vast majority who can barely afford to pay for their basic premium let alone the financial planning fees etc
Wilfred  - re: Flawed renumeration   |SAdministrator |2010-10-03 11:04:00
Friend wrote:
while fee-based is a practical approach for higher networth whom has the ability to keepup with the review fees etc, there is a vast majority who can barely afford to pay for their basic premium let alone the financial planning fees etc


As I only does fee-based planning, 8 out of 10 of my clients are middle-class families. Only maybe 2 out of 10 are considered accredited investors. It is not true that only high networth can afford fee-based service. All middle-class family can afford it.

Also, consider that many "poor family" often spent ten of thousands of dollars paying commissions to be cheated by their "advisers", banning such commissions will prevent these poor family from wasting these tens of thousands of dolars in unnecessary cost. Fee-based planning will never exceed ten of thousands of dollars.
Friend  - NA   |220.255.7.217 |2010-10-05 10:07:52
I am wondering why you keep mentioning about "cheating advisers"??? Do yo mean to say that none of your advice given had any "lousy" insurance plans in it? There are limited insurers in our little red dot and most of them carries similar products, how different can your advice be? Buy term invest the rest? or is there any better suggestions? I think being a financial adviser yourself, stop using these image hammering adjetives on fellow advisers. Rather, try to know why certain products are recommended for that particular need at that particular time... words like "con advisers" "cheats" etc can only subcontiously impart the most innocent minds, I meant you are indirectly and unintentionally negatively branding even good advisers who recommend some of the insurance plans which you think is no good. Hope you dont find this offensive, I believe in a fair society and there is good in bad and also bad in good...
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